Attended a wedding last night in Ateres Charney, a hall in New Square (Noo Skver), a thoroughly unaesthetic hasidishe stronghold north of Monsey NY.
First some background: My uncle Yanki has 12 children. His firstborn Fradi was marrying off her daughter Chavi to a twiggy man sporting an 18 inch high beaver fur shtreimel. Or at least I suspect it was beaver. Anyway, it was said to have been purchased at Chavi's insistence. Now Chavi wore a shaytl (wig) that night, which wasn't all that remarkable except for the fact that she wore it BEFORE the chupa. More tomorrow. I've gotta go home.
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Your gonna need a dictionary for the goyim...
It was made of mink, and probably cost upwards of 3 grand. Not a bad deal. The most I ever got from my shver, that's father-in-law to you goyim, was a bottle of Shivas.
MK, so your shver never got you a even a shtreimel. actually it was probably a spodik. interestingly, but tangentially, an italian friend of mine once dated an alluring jewess whose last name was spodik. he eventually married her. have you ever had the zchus of attending ah khaseneh at ateres charney?
I don't wear a shtreimel, so my shver got off easy. I did make good use of the Shivas though.
Don't know if I'd call it a zchus, but I have been there many times.
One thing about those Chasidim, they sure can cook :-)
Sounds like you and your uncle come from different planets. How did that come about?
my father came from a yeshivish hungarian family. grew up in williamsbur, crown heights , borough park. torah vadaas. when he was 17 him and his freidns went off the derekh, spent too much times reading forbidden books at the library. he left it all. moved to manhattan. the rest of my family remains as they were. his youngest brother yanki became even more frum, moved to (ir hakoidesh) monsey has 12 married children, ranging from 21 to 42.
i have many cousins in all ayarot hakoidesh lemeeneyhem.
despite my father's 'baal she'ela' status, i went to a modern orthodox yeshiva.
Very interesting.
I too have an aunt that is irreligious, but I believe that was caused by her experiences during WWII.
Do you ever question your father's decision to split with his family?
Only insofar that it caused him emotional hardship. when he left, for him, it was all or nothing. he felt that if he didnt believe in matan tora at har sinai, that the god dictated the tora to moishe at har sinai, then all its all worthless, and why be jewish at all. he refused to live a lie. they took him to many many rabbis, who accused him or arrogance. his siblings balmed him for their mother's death from cancer. then one pesakh he was in paris. and he had an urge to fly to israel. thats where he met my future mother.
he always loved hazanus, and i always visited my aunts and uncles in bklyn as a kid on sundays. but now he's dead.
I'm sorry to hear about your father. I recently lost my father as well, and I really sympathize.
I meant to say, did you consider that if he had not changed, you might be wearing that shtriemel today? :-)
if he hadnt changed, he wouldnt have married my mother. if youre asking me if my father was frum whether i would be? its a tough one. i might have been a closet apikores. ive always been a bit of a rebel.
hwo about you? are you a shtreimel/ben avuya/shaigetz type? a shell (from on outside not on inside) or just observing the multi pronged conversation curiously from the side?
I am a mere observer.
Chivas as in Chivas Regal. duh.. is there a halacha against proper English spelling and grammar?
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